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lora-qlora-recipes

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Configure LoRA and QLoRA fine-tuning with current best-practice hyperparameters and module targeting.

What is lora-qlora-recipes?

This skill provides validated adapter configurations for LoRA and QLoRA supervised fine-tuning, following the "LoRA Without Regret" reference recipe. Use it when writing or reviewing a LoRA/QLoRA training configuration, choosing rank/alpha/target modules, or deciding between LoRA, QLoRA, and full fine-tuning.

  • Specify all-linear target modules (attention + MLP layers) for optimal quality
  • Derive lora_alpha from rank using the 2*r convention
  • Select rank by task type (RL: 1–32, general: 16–32, SFT at scale: up to ~256)
  • Set learning rates and batch sizes following validated hyperparameter tables
  • Choose between LoRA, QLoRA, and full fine-tuning based on memory and knowledge-injection needs
  • Identify and avoid common failure modes (fp16 divergence, rank overfitting, module trimming)

How to install lora-qlora-recipes

npx skills add https://github.com/wshobson/agents --skill lora-qlora-recipes
Prerequisites
  • Routing decision already made (SFT via LoRA/QLoRA, not preference learning)
  • Target model size class identified
  • Unsloth or TRL/PEFT framework available for implementation
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How to use lora-qlora-recipes

  1. 1.Identify your task type (RL, general SFT, or large-scale SFT) to select initial rank from the Rank by Task table
  2. 2.Set lora_alpha = 2 * rank using the settled convention
  3. 3.Target all-linear modules: q_proj, k_proj, v_proj, o_proj (attention) plus gate_proj, up_proj, down_proj (MLP)
  4. 4.Set learning rate to ~2e-4 for QLoRA or 10x the equivalent full-fine-tune LR for LoRA
  5. 5.Configure Unsloth defaults: lora_dropout=0, bias="none", use_gradient_checkpointing="unsloth", optim="adamw_8bit"
  6. 6.Keep effective batch size under 32 and validate against hyperparameter tables in references/hyperparameters.md
  7. 7.Pass the validated config to llm-finetuning-training-engineer for script generation

Use cases

Good for
  • Configuring a LoRA adapter for behavior adaptation on demonstration data
  • Selecting QLoRA when base model doesn't fit in bf16 memory
  • Deciding whether to use full fine-tuning for dense domain knowledge injection
  • Reviewing an existing LoRA/QLoRA config against best-practice conventions
  • Troubleshooting training instability by validating configuration choices
Who it's for
  • ML engineers writing LoRA/QLoRA training scripts
  • Researchers tuning adapter hyperparameters for SFT
  • Teams choosing between LoRA, QLoRA, and full fine-tuning approaches
  • Developers integrating with Unsloth or TRL-based training pipelines

lora-qlora-recipes FAQ

When should I use QLoRA instead of LoRA?

Use QLoRA only when the base model doesn't fit in bf16 at your target rank. LoRA is the default; upgrade to QLoRA only if memory forces it. Note that QLoRA can OOM during load due to dequantization buffers even if steady-state fits; try bf16 LoRA before further QLoRA shrinking.

How do I choose rank for my task?

Match rank to the task type: RL adapters use 1–32, general SFT uses 16–32, and large-scale SFT can go up to ~256. Start at the row matching your task and only increase if lower rank measurably underfits on held-out eval, not as a default hedge.

Should I remove target modules to save memory?

No. Removing modules like gate_proj/up_proj/down_proj saves negligible memory but measurably hurts quality. If memory is tight, move to QLoRA, reduce rank, reduce batch size, or reduce pack length instead.

Why is lora_alpha always 2 * rank?

The 2*r convention is the settled best practice from NeurIPS 2025 "intruder dimensions" research. Don't hand-tune alpha independently; derive it from rank every time.

What's the difference between this skill and finetuning-method-selection?

finetuning-method-selection routes you here after deciding SFT is appropriate. This skill configures the adapter itself (rank, alpha, target modules). Dataset curation is handled separately by dataset-curation; training script generation by llm-finetuning-training-engineer.

Full instructions (SKILL.md)

Source of truth, from wshobson/agents.


name: lora-qlora-recipes description: Configure LoRA and QLoRA supervised fine-tuning with current best-practice hyperparameters. Use when writing or reviewing a LoRA/QLoRA training configuration, choosing rank/alpha/target modules, or deciding between LoRA, QLoRA, and full fine-tuning.

LoRA & QLoRA Recipes

This skill assumes the routing decision already happened — finetuning-method-selection should have already pointed here because the data shape is demonstrations (SFT), not preference pairs or a verifiable reward signal. What follows is the current best-practice recipe for configuring the adapter itself: which modules to target, how to size rank and alpha, what learning rate to use, and when QLoRA buys real headroom versus when it just adds risk. Dataset preparation and quality checks are a separate concern — see dataset-curation.

Input: a routing decision (SFT via LoRA/ QLoRA) plus a target size class. Output format: a validated adapter config — the kwarg values below, not free-form advice — that llm-finetuning-training-engineer consumes directly when it generates a runnable script.

The Reference Recipe

The reference recipe is "LoRA Without Regret" (Thinking Machines/Schulman, 2025-09), now the settled convention for LoRA/QLoRA SFT.

Target Modules

Target all-linear modules, not just attention:

target_modules = [
    "q_proj", "k_proj", "v_proj", "o_proj",   # attention
    "gate_proj", "up_proj", "down_proj",      # MLP — matters most
]

The MLP layers (gate_proj, up_proj, down_proj) matter most — attention-only targeting was the older, weaker convention. Dropping modules to save memory is a Failure Mode below, not a valid optimization.

Alpha and Learning Rate

  • lora_alpha = 2 * r is the settled convention (NeurIPS 2025 "intruder dimensions" result). Don't hand-tune alpha independently of rank — derive it from rank every time.
  • LoRA learning rate ≈ 10x the equivalent full-fine-tune LR. For QLoRA specifically, 2e-4 is the standard starting point. Full hyperparameter tables and worked examples: references/hyperparameters.md.

Rank by Task

Rank is task-shaped, not a single global default:

TaskRank
RL (GRPO/RLVR adapters)1–32
General default16–32
SFT at scaleup to ~256

Higher rank isn't automatically better — it raises capacity to memorize as fast as it raises capacity to generalize. Start at the row matching the task, and only move up a row if the lower rank measurably underfits on held-out eval, not as a default hedge.

Effective Batch Size

Keep effective batch size under 32. This recipe was validated at that scale — pushing effective batch higher is an untested extrapolation, not a free throughput win.

Unsloth Defaults

Unsloth is the reference implementation this plugin assumes as the default fast path — except for messages-shaped conversational SFT with assistant_only_loss=True, where Unsloth 2026.7.x's compiled trainer has no messages-shaped path at all and the plain-TRL escape hatch (references/unsloth-trl-mapping.md) is the default for that combination, not a rare-regression fallback. Its out-of-the-box defaults, and why each one is set that way:

  • lora_dropout=0 — the optimized kernel path assumes zero dropout; setting a nonzero value forfeits the fused-kernel speedup.
  • bias="none" — bias terms add adapter parameters for negligible quality gain at this rank range.
  • use_gradient_checkpointing="unsloth" — Unsloth's checkpointing variant, not vanilla HF checkpointing; saves roughly 30% VRAM over no checkpointing.
  • optim="adamw_8bit" — 8-bit AdamW cuts optimizer-state memory with negligible quality impact at LoRA/QLoRA adapter scale.
  • random_state fixed — pins LoRA initialization for reproducibility across runs; treat it like any other seed, not a tunable.

These show up together on the get_peft_model call:

model = FastLanguageModel.get_peft_model(
    model,
    r=32,
    target_modules=target_modules,
    lora_alpha=64,               # 2 * r
    lora_dropout=0,
    bias="none",
    use_gradient_checkpointing="unsloth",
    random_state=3407,
)

Exact kwarg names and their plain-TRL/PEFT equivalents, plus a full worked config including SFTConfig: references/unsloth-trl-mapping.md and references/hyperparameters.md.

LoRA vs QLoRA vs Full FT

SituationDefault choice
Adapting behavior on demonstrationsLoRA
Base model doesn't fit in bf16 at target rankQLoRA
Injecting dense new domain knowledgeFull FT (see finetuning-method-selection)
Unsure which oneLoRA — upgrade to QLoRA only if memory forces it
  • QLoRA = NF4-quantized frozen base weights + BF16 adapters. This is what makes a 65B-class model trainable on 48GB — the quantized base is the memory win, not the adapter itself.
  • Full fine-tuning is not a default. Reserve it for dense knowledge injection where the goal is changing what the model knows at the weight level, not adapting a behavior. For everything else in this skill's scope, LoRA or QLoRA is the starting assumption.
  • On DGX Spark, QLoRA can OOM before an equivalent bf16 LoRA run would, even though QLoRA's steady-state footprint is smaller — bitsandbytes dequantization buffers are transient CUDA-side allocations that spike during load. A QLoRA OOM is not proof the model doesn't fit; the dgx-spark-ops plugin's spark-memory-thermal-ops skill covers the full OOM remediation ladder (bf16 LoRA is the next thing to try, not a further QLoRA shrink).

Failure Modes

  • fp16 divergence on non-BF16 GPUs. Training in fp16 on hardware that doesn't have solid BF16 support is a known source of loss spikes and silent divergence. Force bf16=True wherever the hardware supports it; don't fall back to fp16 as if it were equivalent. Check hardware support before picking a dtype:

    python -c "import torch; print(torch.cuda.is_bf16_supported())"
    
  • Rank too high on a small dataset overfits. A rank picked for "SFT at scale" (up to ~256) on a dataset that doesn't have scale behind it memorizes rather than generalizes. Match rank to the Rank by Task table above, not to the largest number available.

  • Removing target modules to save memory costs quality for negligible savings. The adapter parameters on gate_proj/up_proj/down_proj are a small fraction of total model size — cutting them barely moves memory but measurably hurts quality. If memory is tight, move to QLoRA or reduce rank/batch/pack length before trimming target modules.

All three failure modes share a pattern: they look like a training-loop bug (loss spikes, plateaus, memorization) but are actually a config choice that contradicts the reference recipe above. Check configuration against this skill before debugging the training loop itself.

References

  • references/hyperparameters.md — full rank/ alpha/LR tables by task type, rsLoRA notes, batch/packing interactions, and a complete worked Unsloth config block.
  • references/unsloth-trl-mapping.md — every Unsloth kwarg mapped to its TRL/PEFT equivalent, current TRL API notes, and the escape-hatch rule for when to drop back to plain TRL.

Related skills: finetuning-method-selection routes here; dataset-curation covers the data side this skill doesn't; llm-finetuning-training-engineer is the downstream consumer of the config this skill produces.